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    St Croix Vs Fenwick
from tom (  
5/3/2003 10:07:00 PM


 hey you guys, i got a little question for ya concernig who's a better pole manufature? My reasearch has concluded that both poles are really sweet the st croix Avid and Fenwick HMG AV are both superiely balanced and sensitive in action. The only thing that im not to sure about is St.Croixs lifetime warrenty vs. fenwicks......My friends and i have all broken our fenwick poles(mostly form being careless)and have never had a problem getting them replaced, on the other hand when i was at the store feeling the two out, a fellow bass fisherman told me to stick with the Fenwick because of their better warrenty. I have never owned a St.Croix, but spending 165 dollars and not getting the customer quality that i deserve makes me think twice.....Im no roland martin nor gill gates.....just a regular dude looking for a good rod. If any of you guys have owned a St.Croix and have damaged it for what ever reason, and needed to have it returned to the manufature and have had problems please help me out and share your experiance.....


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   Fenwick is.......................... from duke d (  5/3/2003 10:22:00 PM
 part of the Pure Fishing Corp (Berkley, Redfox, Etc.) and St Croix is still family owned. I don't think you'll have a problem with a legit warranty issue with either one.

   Warranty from bayhouse (  5/4/2003 2:10:00 AM
 I suspect the difference in the warranty is that St. Croix is a American made product and Fenwick is made overseas and therefore Fenwick is more than willing to warranty anything because it cost them very little to replace a rod. I am suprised that you find the quality to be the same. Just my opinion.

   St Croix warranty from Danimal (  5/4/2003 7:56:00 AM
 I broke one of there premier series casting rods once - my fault. I packed the rod up and sent it back with a letter describing how it happened - it was within the two year warranty. A week and half later, I had a new rod at no charge. They certainly treated me more than fairly. I currently own 6 St Croix rods that I use as travel rods. I enjoy them very much and would not hesitate to buy another or recommend them to others.

Dan Corfman

   I've broken both from Ethan Edwards  5/4/2003 8:26:00 AM
 and I think you'll have trouble with neither. As bayhouse said, I am kinda suprised you find the quality there in the Fenwick. Fenwick used to be the best non-custom rod IMHO, but it now is more on a par with the Lightening rods than ANYTHING from St.Croix. Just my .02.

   bayhouse and ethan edwards are right from Brad_L (  5/4/2003 12:15:00 PM
 I just saw some Techna AV's and was sorely disappointed to see "made in China" on the end of the butt-caps. Maybe just the butt-caps are made in China (remember that Taiwan is a part of China) and not the rod and blank, but if the rod is made there, then $200 is probably an extremely high mark-up.


   st croix from ye ole hobbit (  5/4/2003 12:21:00 PM
 I broke a legend (original), and two premiers that were out of warranty. My fault as a stereo speaker slid into them during a cross town move. I called St. Croix and told them what had happened. They replaced all three rods for 35 dollars if my memory is correct. One of the premiers had a bad reel seat so they didn't charge me for it even though it was out of warranty. The legend was a free replacement, and 35 bucks (again if my memory is correct) to replace the other premier.

I couldn't of been happier with the service dept., they were very friendly to talk with on the phone and resolved the whole thing in less than a week.

   St. Croix VS Fenwick is not much of a contest from Rich Forhan Custom Rods  5/5/2003 12:27:00 AM
 Fenwick was once the American leader in factory rods and innovation. They have been sold several times and now produce in Taiwan (same assembly line with Berkley). They are not likely to approach St. Croix in any useful category in the future. (except the quest for market share! LOL)

   Fenwick is inferior now to St. Croix but still from Palo Pinto (  5/5/2003 8:04:00 AM
 hasn't lowered prices. I think St. Croix is nearly as cheap.


   Ok i guess St.croix is my new rod from tom (  5/5/2003 10:36:00 AM
 hey thanks guys for all of this information, im going with the St.croix. My question now is to palo why do you say that St. Croix is nearly as cheap. What poles do you use then?


   The Avid..................... from duke d (  5/5/2003 12:30:00 PM
 series is a very good rod at a good price. Of course the LE is one of the most expensive out there. Years ago when the first Avid's came out on the market, the Premiers had an old design and the Avids were a vast improvement. The design of a Loomis GL2 was vastly superior to the Premier. The Premier I hope has undergone some changes. But the Avid is a excellent buy.

   I use from Palo Pinto (  5/5/2003 1:46:00 PM
 Falcon's and All Star's mainly now. I have a lot of different brands including Fenwick and have owned St. Croix in the past.

As to the price question, I'm going by what I've seen in the stores. I wouldn't buy a Fenwick simply because they are just as expensive as an American-made rod and exhibit less quality. The Avid will cost you less than the Premier but is probably worth the extra if you fish tournaments or want every last bit of edge. I think that in the lower-end rods, the Silver Series, Low Rider, or one of the All Stars will outperform the Premier, but your original question asked whether Fenwick or St. Croix had advantages, so I didn't address that. What the others said about overseas products was what I was getting at when I said Fenwick hadn't lowered their prices commensurately. They should be much cheaper with the lower costs of production in other countries and they're not. I think a Fenwick will run you around $100 and you can get a Premier much cheaper. In fact, Wal-Mart recently closed out their overseas-made All Stars for $18! From what I've seen of recent Fenwicks, they were on a par with these offerings.




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